I always like the look of these

"Frank Grimes" (FrankGrimes) 07/23/2016 at 00:33 • Filed to: None

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At least I think I do. I don’t know. A transverse mounted pushrod small block is wierd.
Also I hate nascar.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 00:35

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Aren’t these things FWD like the Impala SS’s?

LongbowMkII > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 00:37

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The last MCs were strangely attractive. Makes no sense considering GM just slapped a Impala front clip on the previous version Monte. Yet... It works.

Brb on Craigslist.

Frank Grimes > LongbowMkII 07/23/2016 at 00:38

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I bet they really really suck.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 00:42

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Impala Coupé

Nick Has an Exocet > Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy 07/23/2016 at 00:44

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Impala, Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Regal, Intrigue.

All W body chassis. 1988–2016. Finally dead. They were still producing the Impala Limited on it.

Nick Has an Exocet > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 00:46

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Those were supercharged V6's, right?

240 HP of fury. Boo.

Nibbles > Nick Has an Exocet 07/23/2016 at 00:49

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260 by that time thankyouverymuch. And the SS had a 303 hp 5.3L V8

Butsen Katsun > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 00:49

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I saw a V8 Intimidator Monte at Barrett Jackson that sold for $30k. I thought it was pretty weird. So many cars that were much, much cooler sold for less!

Flyboy is FAA certified insane > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 00:58

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Man, that thing loses all sporting intentions due to FWD. Maybe it’s just a good sporty looking cruiser.

I agree though, it looks nice. Oddly proportional.

LongbowMkII > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 01:02

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But it's a W-body, which while sucky, is also ridiculously cheap. Avoid the base models and you could have a nice beater.

PanchoVilleneuve ST > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 01:05

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I liked the pre-facelift front end a lot more.

Nick Has an Exocet > Nibbles 07/23/2016 at 01:10

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Haha. Fine, 260.

If I had to have one of those cars these days, I’d get the tried and true 3800 Series II. Yes, it’s 190-200hp, but it will run forever. I seem to remember those V8's having horrible reliability (plus annoying cylinder deactivation) and the Supercharged V6 wasn’t much better. I had a 97 Grand Prix and that thing ran despite me.

Birddog > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 01:14

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You don’t like them.

From that angle it doesn’t lool bad. In pictures. Walk up to one and its a different story.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 02:15

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I’ve been meaning to write a long piece about the W-body, the delusional grandeur of American exceptionalism, and its impact on growing up in the mid-west in the 90's-00's. I just haven’t had the time.

Frank Grimes > Birddog 07/23/2016 at 03:00

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why do they smell?

Birddog > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 03:04

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Plastics.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > LongbowMkII 07/23/2016 at 09:10

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Base models were better though, because you weren’t rebuilding transmissions constantly.

LongbowMkII > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/23/2016 at 09:14

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I doubt the 3.9 LTZ was tearing apart transmissions. I’d avoid the SS.

Generally, from years of browsing CL, you can get well optioned American cars for only a bit more than the rental grade base.

LongbowMkII > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/23/2016 at 09:21

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Then again you could always buy a base model and pick up options you want from junkyards/salvage.

Nibbles > Nick Has an Exocet 07/23/2016 at 09:53

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I had a 2001 Impala LS for a few years. It was pleasingly acceptable

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 12:06

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I have always and will always hate these things, but different strokes for different folks.

Frank Grimes > IanZ - limited-slip indifferential 07/23/2016 at 19:07

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why you hate?

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > Frank Grimes 07/23/2016 at 20:41

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Cuz I’m getting major uggo vibes here

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Nick Has an Exocet 07/25/2016 at 15:53

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But... the supercharged ones were a 3800 Series II...

Nick Has an Exocet > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 07/25/2016 at 16:34

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But they were late 90s forced induction. That isn’t exactly a recipe for success.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Nick Has an Exocet 07/25/2016 at 16:59

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Other than the location of the fuel injectors, the compression ratio, and the supercharger slapped on top there really is no difference. Buick tuned them to within an inch of their lives and added aggressive knock retard for reliability, and as a result some of them make upwards of 300hp stock and they can be modded to put out ridiculous power fairly easily.